I want to thank Ms. Ginger Summit for her time and interest with the
interview. We appreciate all that she has done for the gourd world and
look forward to more. We wish her good health.
What inspired your interest in growing gourds?
Whenever you are crafting a gourd, you end up with a huge pile of seeds.
Like many crafters, I wondered if they would actually grow if I planted
them. The question was answered when lots of vines started popping out of
my compost pile! After the first random crop, I began saving seeds of
gourd shapes I particularly liked, so that I would have a handy supply of
the gourds I most often used.
How large is your garden?
My house is on a little over an acre, in what used to be an old apricot
orchard. The trees died out, and now I grow gourds in two areas. One area
I have for the trellises, and the other is for gourds to just sprawl over
and completely fill the ground. (If you have tried growing gourds, you
know they can be very aggressive! They will climb anything, especially
small bushes and trees that get in their way! I try to always pinch back
the main vine stem to force the laterals (and therefore more female
blossoms). But once the vines all begin to intertwine on the ground, it is
hard to figure out what belongs to what. So I just enjoy the entire scene,
and let Mother Nature have fun!
What states have strong growing conditions?
Most of the big gourd farms are in the states that have long growing
seasons, such as California, and all the states in the south from east to
west coast. Also, there are some lovely gourd farms in the Midwest, as far
north as Chicago. The very first gourd association was in New England, and
botanists in Boston experimented with gourd crops, so it really depends on
the microclimates of each area.
What are the required growing conditions for
gourds?
Gourds require lots of well-fertilized soil, lots of water, and lots of
sun! Before planting, it is really important to make sure the soil is
thoroughly enriched with manure, fertilizers and any other mulches that
will provide all the basic nutrients to get the vines started. They
usually have a pretty long growing season (100-120 days) from planting to
harvest, so folks often get their seeds started inside just to get a jump
on the season. They shouldn't be planted in the ground until it is
consistently around 70 degrees, which sometimes is a real problem.
Is gourd crafting something anyone can learn?
One of the best things about gourd craft is that there is room for simply
everyone, from the complete beginner to the very accomplished artist. As a
former special education teacher, I have taken gourds to elementary
schools and worked with at-risk groups of children. It is wonderful to see
the thrill they experience making a simple project that
they are proud of. And actually, gourds are very lovely with nothing done
with them--just lightly polished and left alone or combined with other
natural objects. People with talents in almost any craft area will find a
new and exciting way to work with gourds--woodworkers like to carve the
naturally wooden shapes, basketmakers use the gourds as the foundation for
imaginative baskets, potters enjoy working with pots that are already
shaped, artists use the gourd as a round canvas, beaders and weavers find
ways to embellish the surface with their collections--there is simply room
for everyone to enjoy this craft.
What is the best way to get started in the
gourd crafting?
One of the things I appreciate most about gourd craft is that you
literally do not need to go out and get any special supplies to get
started. It is extremely 'beginner-friendly'! Simple shoe polish, floor
wax, wood stains and spray finishes--all look nice on the gourd shell.
Keep in mind that anything that works on paper, leather or wood works on a
gourd shell. For children I usually just have a big container of marking
pens, beads, leather scraps, maybe some feathers or other natural objects,
and they create lovely pieces. Very inexpensive tools available at any
hardware store or craft shop, such as hobby knives and saws, woodburning
tools, tapestry needles, leather awl, can be used to get started in other
directions. There are some fancy tools, such as power saws, which can be
used once the crafter has decided s/he needs to go further in this area,
but for getting started, there is absolutely no need to make expensive
investments. Everything you need is probably already in your kitchen,
hobby corner or garage! What a relief, compared with so many other crafts
that require a hefty investment just to get started.
Which gourds are the best for crafting?
This depends entirely on the type of craft you have in mind. The hardshell
gourd (lagenaria siceria) comes in so many shapes and sizes, and the 'very
best gourd' depends what craft you enjoy working on. Many beginning
crafters like the bottle (hourglass shape), or birdhouse (triangular
shape), but I often prefer the canteen (round flattish shape)
because it usually has a very thick shell and is adaptable to many types
of containers. Dipper gourds are always fun to play with too.
What do you consider the most 'fun' gourds to
grow?
With school children, the ornamental gourds are definitely the easiest and
'most fun'--they come in lots of different shapes and colors, and have a
relatively short growing season (70-90 days). They are so useful in the
classroom in all parts of the curriculum (I used to be a teacher), and
once they dry, ornamental gourds can make wonderful ornaments, either for
the holidays, mothers day, etc.
But I really do love to watch the long handled dipper gourds. I have
tried making knots in them, but they often break in the process, so now I
just leave them alone, and admire them as they stretch down from the
trellises.
Aside from the popular catalogs where should one look for good source
for interesting gourd seeds?
I would recommend any of the seed sources listed in the appendix of my
books. More and more, seed distributors are discovering the popularity of
this plant, and seeds are generally available in most seed collections and
catalogs. The ones I have tested are very good as far as reliability and
germination rate. If you want specific shapes and sizes, however, I
recommend you contact one of the specialty seed providers listed with the
American Gourd Society, or in my books.
Do you grow anything else in addition to gourds?
I always grow some summer vegetables, like squashes, salad fixings,
tomatoes, etc. And I have my herb area. But for the past couple years I
was so completely involved with the book writing that I really didn't have
time for much gardening. (This past year, beginning June 1999, I have been
dealing with cancer, which severely limited the time and energy I had for
the garden).
What innovative gourd projects are you working on
now?
Right now, the most innovating thing I'm working on is healing! I have a
tumor in the bones at the base of the brain, and have been in treatments
since last summer. The treatments are over now, but we won't do any tests
to find out what is actually happening with the tumors until November.
Until then, the doctors have warned to stay completely away from all dust,
fumes, etc. that may be involved with gourd projects. I continue to give
lots of talks and presentations, sharing slides from gourds I have seen on
my trips or in museums around the world, but I just am not working on
gourd crafts for a while.
In what direction do you see gourd crafting
headed in the future?
As gourd crafting gets more attention, I see more serious
crafters and artists beginning to pursue this. For so many years, gourds
were a novelty and were used for interesting but relatively simple
projects. I think the field is beginning to mature a bit, and persons who
started with simple ideas are definitely stretching to include some very
sophisticated work. It is always exciting to go to a gourd show and see
the many directions that gourd craft is heading.
Are there organizations one can get involved in
to keep the interest alive?
The American Gourd Society has been in existence since 1935,
and has recently seen an enormous expansion of interest. In the past 10
years, gourd societies have been started in many states. The best way to
find out about these is to contact the American Gourd Society, 317 Maple
Ct, Kokomo, IN 46902-3633. (The AGS is developing a website, but I'm not
sure of their new address.
(ed note: www.americangourdsociety.org
)
A good source for lots of other information on gourds is Gourd Artist
Guild. (The fellow who runs this is John Stacy, whose email is stacyj@jkstacydesigns.com)
They have information on all aspects of gourd growing and crafting, as
well as connections to suppliers and artists.
Why did you decided to write only gourd books?
Actually, I never decided to 'write a book'; it was just that
the last book written on gourds was published in 1970, and frankly, the
projects are VERY dated. My friends simply couldn't understand why I could
be interested in something like this. But working with gourds is easy and
fun, and there was no literature available anywhere to give suggestions at
any level. The more I started working with gourds, and the more crafters I
met, I realized some very exciting things are being done with gourds
today. Unless you really dig around, this information simply wasn't
available to the general crafting public. The only way to get information
on gourds was to join the American Gourd Society, and unfortunately as a
volunteer organization, they are very difficult to get information from.
Once I got
started teaching classes and working with crafts more and more, it was
only natural that books had to be written. The pieces fell into place, and
the books sort of evolved from my experiences.
Is there any question you wish I had asked?
Perhaps a very brief blurb about the history of gourds. They
are one of the very first plants that were cultivated by humans. They
probably originated in Africa, but disseminated throughout the world to
all continents. Gourds have been used for literally thousands of years,
for a wide range of purposes: food (they are, after all, members of the
squash family, and can be eaten when they are small), medicine, musical
instruments, containers of every shape and size and for every purpose you
can imagine. I am always amazed when I examine the collections of museums
to see the unusual ways people have used gourds in the past. (I recently
returned from West Africa where people continue to use gourds in ways they
have been used for thousands of years.) Some of the decorated gourds in
museums are truly awesome--the beaded and inlay work from Africa is
breathtaking!
Also see Ginger Summit's biography.